Oz Report

Volume 10, Number 25
Monday, Jan 30 2006
Sportavia, Tocumwal, NSW, Australia
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"Toto, I have a feeling we're not in Kansas anymore."

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Sat, Jan 28 2006, 9:25:14 am AUSEDT

Changes to the Sporting Code

You can find the proposed changes to the Sporting Code here: http://www.rogallo.co.uk/civl/s7.htm.  You can download this document: http://www.rogallo.co.uk/document/S7A-HG.doc.

One change I found interesting:

2.  6.10 Action in the event of a casualty or serious accident

The organiser shall follow the procedures outlined in the FAI document (available from the FAI website) "Guidelines in the Event of a Casualty or Serious Accident at FAI Airsports Events".

Unfortunately when I went to look for this document, it was no longer there.  John Aldridge is trying to track it down now.

The organisers shall allocate numbers or letters to each competing glider which shall be displayed on the glider.  This will normally be on the underside of the right wingtip with the top of the numbers or letters towards the leading edge, and may also be on the pilot's helmet or on other equipment. Numbers may be additionally required on top of the wing.

We haven't put numbers on gliders for years now.  No one wants to do this.  They are just requiring it so that they can penalize us.

There are numerous other changes including a complete reformatting of the local regulations, something that I have urged.  More later.

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Sat, Jan 28 2006, 9:26:18 am AUSEDT

1700 hang gliding pictures.

Sander van Schaik <sander> sends:



The Hang Glider Tiles Poster is made out of 1700 photos of hang gliding.  These pictures are collected over the past two years.  Most of the pictures are send by fellow hang gliders, and they are from all over the world.  You can also find pictures of the latest World Championship in Australia!  The sale of this unique Hang glider Tiles A1 poster (60x85 cm) starts at the Hang glider event in Wageningen on January 29.  After this event the poster will be available.

For more information and ordering: www.svs-design.nl/poster.html

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Sat, Jan 28 2006, 9:27:20 am AUSEDT

What happens in the future?

Doug McClearyDoug McCleary <dougmccleary1995> writes:

There is no doubt that the existing fleet of tugs, trainers and fat ultralights can be grandfathered in as E-LSA.  That's 50% of what this whole three year transition time is about.  The other 50% is getting all the ASTM standards in place for the SLSA craft, getting us all transitioned as pilots, getting the infrastructure in place to make Sport Pilot work smoothly (as it now stands, there are about seven weight shift DPE's in the whole country, and not many more SPI's--which we need to get the endorsement to get our check ride from the DPE--I'm not grandfathered since I soloed and became a member of EAA AFTER Jan.  2004).

So the problem as I understand it is, there is NO WAY any of us can grandfather our current aircraft in as S-LSA.  And even if we did, the rigidity re.  the aircraft will make it difficult to use them--much easier for you for instance with a "fixed-wing" dragonfly, but with a trike, you should be able to change out wings, once the S-LSA trikes come out, you won't be able to do that since the aircraft must be kept AS certified.

The whole S-LSA idea is to now be able to purchase pre-manufactured aircraft which have been built according to the ASTM consensus standards.  Each manufacturer has to have ONE aircraft built and certified "as is." Then all the other aircraft manufactured after that will be carbon copies of that one certified craft.

S-LSA's have the same maintenance requirements as an E-LSA used for "hire," except that both the 100 hour and annual inspections must be done by an A&P or a Light Sport Maintenance Repairman.  And any repairs done to the aircraft must be in compliance with that aircraft's certification.  Aside from that, the S-LSA's will also cost several thousand dollars more than the same aircraft did as a pre-SLSA craft (the fleet we're grandfathering in) since after 2008, SLSA will be the only game in town, and if anyone wants to get into light sport aviation, they will only have the choice of purchasing an SLSA.

If we can't grandfather our current fleet in as SLSA, then after 2010 (the extended deadline for using ELSA for "hire") our current fleet becomes either lawn chair material, or recreational aircraft which we can fly for ourselves, but cannot use for towing, etc.

And that's where the frustration comes from for those of us who have invested time and money into these "operations"--whether a larger scale operation like yours, or a couple guys who own a trike like ours.  All the money, time and effort we've put in becomes useless after 2010.  Either we suck it up and go spend thousands more on a fleet of SLSA aircraft, or we throw in the towel, or we operate "under the radar." I know our guys are tempted to do the latter, since we tow out of an airstrip that's private and somewhat secluded (except for the highway we tend to turn over), but then we incur a new sort of liability as well as set ourselves up for fines and penalties if anything were to happen and the FAA show up on our doorstep.

Now add to that the new requirement that all who are acting as a tug pilot acquire their Private Pilot's License.  That's another $6-7000 expense that most of us can't afford and don't really WANT to afford.  I could care less about becoming a GA pilot.  I love flying my hang glider and my trike, I have no interest in piloting a spam can.  And yet, if USHGA isn't successful in getting the rules amended, I am going to have no choice.  Fortunately--as I already mentioned--as a weight shift pilot, I can get my private in the weight shift class.  But even that isn't worth the trouble if indeed we are required to use only SLSA aircraft (I won't be investing the money to buy a new aircraft for towing).

I don't know if any of this is helpful, but it's the "rule" as I understand it. Please let me know what you hear from the Florida flight park operatorsa nd I'll keep you informed if I hear anything different.  My hangar mate--and the guy who brokered the deal for us on the trike so we COULD tow (a long-time hang glider pilot turned weight shift CFI who wanted tug pilots at his disposal) is one of the DPE's.  I will try to ask him what he knows when he gets back from this month training in AZ.

I'm going to forward this to Eric Thorstenson, who is part owner/operator of a dragonfly operation in WA, and with whom I was talking about some of this material just the other day.

Tracy TillmanTracy Tillman <Cloud9SA> responds:

Yes, that good clarification of the problems.  We have a similar issue with the Dragonfly, as we often need to change propellers, engines, etc., in and out, and sometimes from one plane to another, and do other work on the plane, which makes E-SLA much more appealing and practical.

The issue of towing with an E-SLA after 2010 is a concern.  I haven't seen that specific wording anywhere (which doesn't mean its not there someplace). I've seen the wording about training--not sure about "for hire." If the tug can't be used for towing for hire after 2010, perhaps it can still be used for towing for personal or club use.  We've been towing as a club for almost 10 years, now.

I don't recommend trying to stay under the radar with the FAA.  We've been formally inspected twice.  Different FSDOs often interpret rules differently. Fortunately for us, our FSDO felt that use of the 2 seat trainer ultralight (fat) dragonfly for towing was acceptable, since the mission of our club is training, instruction, and safety (we consider all our tandem and solo flights to be instructional flights), and because we are a non-profit club.  Actually, we made sure to be very up-to-date on the regs before they came, and helped to educate them about ultralight towing, and the regs and exemptions. 

Ultralight towing is so oddball for them, that it is not surprising that they did not know much about it.  Actually, after all our harping about safety, they asked me to become a safety counselor for the FSDO's Aviation Safety Counselor program.  Through that program, I've gotten to know the local inspectors personally, which has been extremely beneficial, both practically and politically.

I do know that the FAA is going to take sport pilot issues more seriously, and look closer at operations towing with SLAs.  I'll keep you posted.  Thanks, Tracy.

Doug McClearyDoug McCleary <doug> writes:

The concern that Tracy and I have been addressing is an understanding that, after Jan or 2010, E-LSA may no longer be used for aerotowing operations.  The aerotowing flight parks and operations in the USA are almost uniformly using aircraft that will be grandfathered in as ELSA and the concern is that if ELSA may no longer be used after Jan of 2010, then flight parks and other operations will have to find the funds to replace their existing fleet of tug aircraft, or--as will be the case with smaller groups doing towing--cease operations.

A perusal of the relevant FAR's yields the following:

91.  319 "Aircraft having experimental certificates: Operating Limitations"

(e) No person may operate an aircraft that is issued an experimental certificate under §21.191(i) of this chapter for compensation or hire, except a person may operate an aircraft issued an experimental certificate under §21.191(i)(1) for compensation or hire to—

(1) Tow a glider that is a light-sport aircraft or unpowered ultralight vehicle in accordance with §91.309; or

(2) Conduct flight training in an aircraft which that person provides prior to January 31, 2010.

And

(g) No person may operate an aircraft issued an experimental certificate under §21.191(i)(1) of this chapter to tow a glider that is a light-sport aircraft or unpowered ultralight vehicle for compensation or hire or to conduct flight training for compensation or hire in an aircraft which that persons provides unless within the preceding 100 hours of time in service the aircraft has—

(1) Been inspected by a certificated repairman (light-sport aircraft) with a maintenance rating, an appropriately rated mechanic, or an appropriately rated repair station in accordance with inspection procedures developed by the aircraft manufacturer or a person acceptable to the FAA; or

(2) Received an inspection for the issuance of an airworthiness certificate in accordance with part 21 of this chapter.

According to (e)(2) above, only ELSA used for flight training fall under the January 2010 timeline for use in that capacity.  There is no apparent corresponding ruling regarding ELSA used for towing.  Thus, if I am reading the FAR's correctly, we will be able to continue to use the current fleet of light sport "tugs" after January 2010.

However, we cannot use these tugs without having transitioned them to ELSA and receiving an airworthiness certificate (obviously), or without having 100 hour inspections done by an A&P or a Light Sport repairman with a maintenance rating. My guess would be that if we have a light sport repairman inspection certificate we can still do our own annual inspections.


The other matter that those of us conducting aerotowing operations must address is FAR 61.69.  § 61.69 Glider and unpowered ultralight vehicle towing: Experience and training requirements.

(a) No person may act as pilot in command for towing a glider or unpowered ultralight vehicle unless that person—

(1) Holds at least a private pilot certificate with a category rating for powered aircraft;

(2) Has logged at least 100 hours of pilot-in-command time in the aircraft category, class and type, if required, that the pilot is using to tow a glider or unpowered ultralight vehicle;

There is more to 61.69...but the most relevant issue I want to raise is that of (a)(1).  I believe that most of our tow operations are already working under the rubric of paragraph (2) and doing the training required.  And currently, ultralight aerotow operations are operated under an exemption (#4144) granted to USHGA which allows us to act as tug pilots without the requirement of a private pilots license (a copy of which those of us acting as tug pilots are to carry on the aircraft anytime we are towing).  The 100 hour requirement may be used in place of the Private Pilots License requirement according to USHGA 104.11.01.

Will this exemption still be in place following the full implementation of Sport Pilot?  Or will those of us who are towing now be required to receive a PPL for towing?  I believe this latter needs further comment from USHGA or the FAA...preferably USHGA at this point because it's been my understanding that they are still petitioning the FAA for a change or continued exemption to 61.69(a)(1).  The safety record of aerotowing operations involving ultralights and hang gliders is very good...and makes one wonder if the FAA will recognise that safety record and continue to exempt us from the PPL requirement, or not.

Jayne DePanfilisJayne DePanfilis <jayne> writes:

It is not my understanding that the current fleet of Dragon Flies, or towing vehicles that will eventually need to be certificated as ELSA, will never become obsolete for use for towing, unless we determine their obsolescence.  It is my understanding that we can continue to use the towing vehicles that are certificated as ELSA indefinitely.  FAA clearly understood that as an industry or a fragile segment of sport aviation, we could not afford to replace the existing fleet of tug aircraft.

I know I'm right but let's wait for Bill to back me up.  I will be calling the Sport Pilot office next week again and I can discuss this email with them but I'm quite sure we have permission to use the tugs indefinitely -- but they do have to become certificated as ELSA and they do need to be maintained properly for use for non-commercial and commercial towing ops.

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Sat, Jan 28 2006, 9:33:15 am AUSEDT

From San Diego to Quest Air in April

Contact him: Glen VolkGlen Volk <GVolk>

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to Table of Contentsto next topic Possible Flight Park?

Sat, Jan 28 2006, 9:35:14 am AUSEDT

In Upstate New York

Here.  Thanks to Ryan Young.

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Sat, Jan 28 2006, 11:20:34 am AUSEDT

Others are asking similar questions

Jayne DePanfilisJayne DePanfilis <jayne> writes:

I don't see where FAA has made an effort to differentiate between commercial HG and non-commercial HG aerotow operations for sport pilot.

I will be talking to Larry Clymer next week.  Larry is the acting manager of the sport pilot office in OKC.  I can rely on information from our emails to support the discussion.  I will report back to you as soon as I touch base with him.

But it is my opinion that FAA decided to require tug pilots to obtain a PPL for towing a hang glider because they didn't want to differentiate between commercial and non-commercial towing ops for non-powered ultralights.  FAA didn't penalize USHGA with a requirement for a CL for compensated towing but they also didn't grant us the permission to use a sport pilot license for towing either.  I remember FAA commenting to Bill, Mike Meier and I, that hang glider towing was a "sufficiently complex" process to justify the PPL requirement.  Sue Gardner did evaluate the hang glider towing process and I'm sure we all agree that it is a complex process.  I vividly remember her saying now that it is the complexity of the process that caused them to consider a PPL as the baseline for towing.

Last I spoke with Larry Clymer, he advised USHGA to apply for an exemption to 91.315G so that a sport pilot can tow a non-powered ultralight as long as they are a current member of the USHGA with a USHGA-ATP rating.  Bill Bryden initially suggested that we include pilots who also meet the requirements of part 61.69 but Larry Clymer advised against this.

Larry also mentioned requesting an exemption to part 91.319G and finally, I think he suggested adding part 61.113 G to the rule now so that a private pilot may act as the pilot in command for compensation or hire for towing a non-powered UL.

Larry planned to talk to Mike Brown, policymaker in DC, about the waiver to part 91.

This issue of compensation is definitely still on the table.  I think we're dealing with two issues right now: compensation and a waiver to the sport pilot rule so that current USHGA members with a USHGA-ATP rating can tow a non-powered ultralight.  We haven't been able to wrap these two conversations into one yet.

I had asked Tracy TillmanTracy Tillman the following:

Davis just copied me on another email thread regarding his concern that the existing fleet of Dragon Flies, or fat UL's used for aerotowing hang gliders will eventually become obsolete or illegal for use under the new rule.  Bill Bryden can back me up here but it is my understanding that the current fleet of fat UL two vehicles, the ones manufactured before the rule was released in September, 2004 have been grandfathered in for use as tow vehicles indefinitely. The existing fleet will be required to be certificated as ELSA.  They will require the maintenance and inspection program you outlined in an email to the board recently but they will not become illegal for use after January 2010.  FAA clearly understood that we can not afford to replace the existing fleet of tow vehicles.

Doug and Group:

I clearly need assistance writing the exemption request to the sport pilot rule once we get the green light from FAA policy makers in DC.  Bill Bryden authored previous exemption requests but he may not be in a position to actively volunteer right now.

Tracy: Perhaps, you and I could work together on the exemption request, once we determine exactly what we should include.  We could run the request by Bill before it's submitted.

In addition to submitting a request for an exemption to the sport pilot rule we also need to address the fact that the towing exemption expires in October.  We should, at the very least, consider submitting a revised exemption request asking FAA to amend the existing towing exemption with just one change: to increase the weight of the tug from 540 pounds to 1232 pounds (to match the weight guidelines under sport pilot) or to some such weight that is sufficient enough to make the Dragon Flies legal for towing under the exemption.  As it stands today, the Dragon Flies are still classified as fat ultralights.  We haven't transitioned any of them to ELSA, for good reason, but we don't want to be stuck operating in this "gray" area if we can help it.

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Sat, Jan 28 2006, 12:39:06 am AUSEDT

Why the day was called yesterday



Photo by Jörg Bajewski <<german-ratte>>.

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Sat, Jan 28 2006, 12:48:13 am AUSEDT

An old visage returns

From Dan Brown via Peter BirrenPeter Birren:

Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2006 12:40 PM Subject: Re: Legal opinions (2)

The basis issue is that USHGA fears its members will vote to reject the inclusion of powered harnesses.  To avoid a membership vote, it claims the Articles presently allow fuel flight and no amendment is required.  As you indicate, it asks an awkward question to avoid the real question.  The real question is, "Is fuel flight a stated purpose?" Obviously it isn't.

USHGA did the same thing with the paragliding merger.  California law requires member votes when non-profits merge.  To avoid a vote, USHGA claimed it merely purchased the assets of the American Paraglider Association and did not merge with it.  USHGA feared its hang gliding members would reject including paragliders.

I prefer not to get further involved.  Perhaps you could tell the angry Mr.  Hurst that including fuel flight without a vote amending the Articles invites an expensive legal challenge.

(Dan Brown, Attorney (CA))

(Forwarded by Peter BirrenPeter Birren)

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Sat, Jan 28 2006, 7:22:24 pm AUSEDT

An early report

The flight via HOLC.

The flight via Google Earth.

The weather cast was for cu-nimbs and very good chance for rain.  While it was clear to the north in the morning there was a thick layer of clouds to the south by the ranges, the Victorian Alps.  The soundings (temperature trace taken at the airport here), the models and the local forecasts all called for towering cu's as soon as it got warm enough to start showers.  The sailplane pilots were restricted to the local area with no cross country allowed.

The winds were light on the ground and it was already hot and muggy with the humidity here and in all the surrounding areas very high, like yesterday.  There was a trough just next to us, say thirty miles away just to make things more interesting.

The safety committee kept holding us back, I guess waiting until it was too late, then letting us fly.  I don't quite get that.  Finally at one o'clock we got to set up.  They sky was blue to the north, west and east, but small cu's were just starting up.  Many pilots were waiting to see what would happen and not setting up.

The sky to the north, west and east began to fill up with towering cu's.  I was the first to setup and the first to get to launch at 1:50.  The task has been set to the south, a triangle that got us back in time to end the meet with some dignity.

At 1,000' AGL I pinned off in the strong thermal which turned into 1,000 fpm up to 7,000'.  There was a large black cloud now right above me and right over the air field.  I pulled out of the thermal 1,000' below the cloud just because the threat of cu-nimbs seemed too great and I wanted to be able to stay near the edge of the cloud.

My high risk strategy was to go as early as possible and count on the fact that the task would be stopped while I was on course.  It was clear that there were heavy cu-nimbs by the first and second turnpoint.  I figured that if I got going early I could be furthest out on the course when the task was stopped.

I headed over for the start circle to the southwest where there were plenty of black clouds.  To the south of the start circle it was cloudless and blue.  To the southeast, shaded for 20 kilometers by thick cu's. 

Flying under the black clouds did not produce much lift in the start circle, and I had to go back north to find 200 fpm under other black clouds over the shaded earth to get back to almost 7,000, still a good ways from cloud base.  With a couple of minutes to go before the first start clock I decided to head south to get on course and see what I could find before the cu-nimbs near me took over and the rain started falling.

As soon as the lift quit I was falling like a rock under dark clouds and over shaded ground.  The sun-lit ground was 10 kilometers away and I wouldn't make it at 600 fpm down.  I made a sharp turn to the south east to head for some sun-light over Cobram, but it didn't produce any lift.  The clouds had shaded the ground and stopped the lift.

I kept gliding for sunny areas but didn't find any lift and landed in soft conditons in a nice green open large field with an open gate.

Chris SmithChris Smith got up like I did near the air field to 7,000', and headed for the start circle.  He didn't find any lift there either.  With pilots landing right and left in the start circle and the wind changing around to the south and blowing hard, he decided to come back to the air field and land. 

Dave SeibDave Seib said he almost killed himself on landing coming in in a gust front.  He got high at the air field went over to the start circle and didn't get high again.  Dave stated that Jonny had a hard landing by the first turnpoint and that the wind switched from 15-20 km/h out of the southwest to 15-20 km/h out of the east in five minutes there.

Kraig CoomberKraig Coomber made goal.  Phil Schroder said that after he made the first turnpoint, there was a cu-nimb in front of him (as we could all see from near the start point).

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Sat, Jan 28 2006, 10:56:15 pm AUSEDT

Jonny wins the comp

http://www.hgfa.asn.au/Competition/results/Sportavia06/

Kraig CoomberKraig Coomber was the only one to make goal on the last day.  Andreas Olson and Attila got close.  Jonny won the meet, with Balazs second and Kraig CoomberKraig Coomber third.

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